Integral of (1/100-x)
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I don't understand how the integral below:
begin{align}
int{frac{1}{100-x}dx} = -log|x-100| +c
end{align}
When I integrate I get the answer:
begin{align}
-log|100-x| +c
end{align}
I understand that it probably has something to do with the absolute value function, would someone kindly explain it to me? Thanks!
calculus integration
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I don't understand how the integral below:
begin{align}
int{frac{1}{100-x}dx} = -log|x-100| +c
end{align}
When I integrate I get the answer:
begin{align}
-log|100-x| +c
end{align}
I understand that it probably has something to do with the absolute value function, would someone kindly explain it to me? Thanks!
calculus integration
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$|a|=|-a|$; $x-100=-(100-x)$.
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– David Mitra
1 hour ago
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I don't understand how the integral below:
begin{align}
int{frac{1}{100-x}dx} = -log|x-100| +c
end{align}
When I integrate I get the answer:
begin{align}
-log|100-x| +c
end{align}
I understand that it probably has something to do with the absolute value function, would someone kindly explain it to me? Thanks!
calculus integration
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I don't understand how the integral below:
begin{align}
int{frac{1}{100-x}dx} = -log|x-100| +c
end{align}
When I integrate I get the answer:
begin{align}
-log|100-x| +c
end{align}
I understand that it probably has something to do with the absolute value function, would someone kindly explain it to me? Thanks!
calculus integration
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$|a|=|-a|$; $x-100=-(100-x)$.
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– David Mitra
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$|a|=|-a|$; $x-100=-(100-x)$.
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– David Mitra
1 hour ago
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$|a|=|-a|$; $x-100=-(100-x)$.
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– David Mitra
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$|a|=|-a|$; $x-100=-(100-x)$.
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The absolute value function disregards sign, so |4| = |-4| for example.
That also means that $|x-100| = |100-x|$.
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In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
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– SmithH
50 mins ago
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if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
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– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
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In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
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– Henry
48 mins ago
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Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
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– SmithH
43 mins ago
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thank you for providing the equation
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– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
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Since the argument of the logarithm is in absolute value signs, it doesn't really matter the order in a case like this. As we can see,
$$|a-b| = |(-1)(b-a)| = |-1||b-a| = |b-a|$$
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The absolute value function disregards sign, so |4| = |-4| for example.
That also means that $|x-100| = |100-x|$.
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$begingroup$
In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
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– SmithH
50 mins ago
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if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
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– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
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In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
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– Henry
48 mins ago
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Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
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– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
|
show 6 more comments
$begingroup$
The absolute value function disregards sign, so |4| = |-4| for example.
That also means that $|x-100| = |100-x|$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
$endgroup$
– Henry
48 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
|
show 6 more comments
$begingroup$
The absolute value function disregards sign, so |4| = |-4| for example.
That also means that $|x-100| = |100-x|$.
$endgroup$
The absolute value function disregards sign, so |4| = |-4| for example.
That also means that $|x-100| = |100-x|$.
answered 1 hour ago
Saketh MalyalaSaketh Malyala
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In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
$endgroup$
– Henry
48 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
|
show 6 more comments
$begingroup$
In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
$endgroup$
– Henry
48 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
In the context of a differential equation, where x is the population of function x(t), t is time, and x(0) = 200. Is there any specific reason why I would have to use |x-100| instead of |100-x|?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
if you know that x>100, then use |x-100|
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
$endgroup$
– Henry
48 mins ago
$begingroup$
In fact, if you know $x gt 100$, you can use $(x-100)$ without absolute value signs, making your integral $-(x-100)+c = 100-x+c$, noting that your integrand is negative
$endgroup$
– Henry
48 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thanks so much for the help so far. If the differential equation for this logistic population growth was 1000(dx/dt) = x(100-x), what would suggest that x has to be greater than 100?
$endgroup$
– SmithH
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
thank you for providing the equation
$endgroup$
– Saketh Malyala
37 mins ago
|
show 6 more comments
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Since the argument of the logarithm is in absolute value signs, it doesn't really matter the order in a case like this. As we can see,
$$|a-b| = |(-1)(b-a)| = |-1||b-a| = |b-a|$$
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Since the argument of the logarithm is in absolute value signs, it doesn't really matter the order in a case like this. As we can see,
$$|a-b| = |(-1)(b-a)| = |-1||b-a| = |b-a|$$
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$begingroup$
Since the argument of the logarithm is in absolute value signs, it doesn't really matter the order in a case like this. As we can see,
$$|a-b| = |(-1)(b-a)| = |-1||b-a| = |b-a|$$
$endgroup$
Since the argument of the logarithm is in absolute value signs, it doesn't really matter the order in a case like this. As we can see,
$$|a-b| = |(-1)(b-a)| = |-1||b-a| = |b-a|$$
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– David Mitra
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