Can the Flaming Sphere spell be rammed into multiple Tiny creatures that are in the same 5-foot square?





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The text of the Flaming Sphere spell says that "If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage".



Can I ram a Flaming Sphere into multiple tiny creatures, if they occupy the same 5' by 5' square?



I see nothing forbidding the sphere from being simultaneously rammed into more than one creature.






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    The text of the Flaming Sphere spell says that "If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage".



    Can I ram a Flaming Sphere into multiple tiny creatures, if they occupy the same 5' by 5' square?



    I see nothing forbidding the sphere from being simultaneously rammed into more than one creature.






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      The text of the Flaming Sphere spell says that "If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage".



      Can I ram a Flaming Sphere into multiple tiny creatures, if they occupy the same 5' by 5' square?



      I see nothing forbidding the sphere from being simultaneously rammed into more than one creature.






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      The text of the Flaming Sphere spell says that "If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage".



      Can I ram a Flaming Sphere into multiple tiny creatures, if they occupy the same 5' by 5' square?



      I see nothing forbidding the sphere from being simultaneously rammed into more than one creature.






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          No. Choose one creature to ram into.



          The wording of the spell indicates a single creature. Once it rams into a single creature, the sphere stops. As such, it can only hit one creature before stopping.




          As a bonus action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.




          The others will take damage if they are 5' of the sphere when they end their turn.






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            I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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            @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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          Yes, you can.



          The wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly by the spell.



          I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.






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            Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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            @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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          No. Choose one creature to ram into.



          The wording of the spell indicates a single creature. Once it rams into a single creature, the sphere stops. As such, it can only hit one creature before stopping.




          As a bonus action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.




          The others will take damage if they are 5' of the sphere when they end their turn.






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            I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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            @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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          No. Choose one creature to ram into.



          The wording of the spell indicates a single creature. Once it rams into a single creature, the sphere stops. As such, it can only hit one creature before stopping.




          As a bonus action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.




          The others will take damage if they are 5' of the sphere when they end their turn.






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            I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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            @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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          No. Choose one creature to ram into.



          The wording of the spell indicates a single creature. Once it rams into a single creature, the sphere stops. As such, it can only hit one creature before stopping.




          As a bonus action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.




          The others will take damage if they are 5' of the sphere when they end their turn.






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          No. Choose one creature to ram into.



          The wording of the spell indicates a single creature. Once it rams into a single creature, the sphere stops. As such, it can only hit one creature before stopping.




          As a bonus action, you can move the sphere up to 30 feet. If you ram the sphere into a creature, that creature must make the saving throw against the sphere's damage, and the sphere stops moving this turn.




          The others will take damage if they are 5' of the sphere when they end their turn.







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            I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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            @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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            – GcL
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            I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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            @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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            – GcL
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          I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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          – Merudo
          3 hours ago






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          I'd agree with you if the wording was "You can ram the sphere into a creature". But the wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly. I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.
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          3 hours ago






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          @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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          – GcL
          2 hours ago




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          @Merudo that sounds like a logical line of reasoning. I urge you to submit that as a separate answer.
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          Yes, you can.



          The wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly by the spell.



          I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.






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            Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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            @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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          Yes, you can.



          The wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly by the spell.



          I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.






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            Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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            – William Mariager
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            @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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          Yes, you can.



          The wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly by the spell.



          I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.






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          Yes, you can.



          The wording is "If you ram the sphere into a creature". The ability to ram the sphere is assumed to exist outside of the spell description, and is not defined explicitly by the spell.



          I'd argue that if you move a sphere into 2 tiny creatures, both are rammed by the sphere, and the condition "if you ram the sphere into a creature" is triggered twice.







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            Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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            – William Mariager
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            @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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            Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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            – William Mariager
            14 mins ago










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            @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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          Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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          – William Mariager
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          Can you expand on how you'd argue it can hit multiple enemies if the first time it hits something, it stops moving?
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          – William Mariager
          14 mins ago












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          @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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          – nitsua60♦
          13 mins ago




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          @WilliamMariager I feel like your question would be addressed if Merudo added the word "simultaneously" to the phrase "both are simultaneously rammed by the sphere." But I'm not sure that's Merudo's underlying reasoning, so I'll leave it to them to edit.
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