Why did this image turn out darker?
In this tutorial on creating christmas themed images the author describes how she adjusted her exposure settings to add more weight to the christmas lights
She says she went from f/2.8 and 1/3 of a second to f/3.2 and three seconds exposures.
It seems the difference in aperture (not even a doubling in light intensity) would not compensate for the increased light intensity of the ten times decrease in shutter speed. Is this correct?
source https://expertphotography.com/how-to-photograph-christmas-lights/
flash exposure lighting off-camera-flash
add a comment |
In this tutorial on creating christmas themed images the author describes how she adjusted her exposure settings to add more weight to the christmas lights
She says she went from f/2.8 and 1/3 of a second to f/3.2 and three seconds exposures.
It seems the difference in aperture (not even a doubling in light intensity) would not compensate for the increased light intensity of the ten times decrease in shutter speed. Is this correct?
source https://expertphotography.com/how-to-photograph-christmas-lights/
flash exposure lighting off-camera-flash
1
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
3
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago
add a comment |
In this tutorial on creating christmas themed images the author describes how she adjusted her exposure settings to add more weight to the christmas lights
She says she went from f/2.8 and 1/3 of a second to f/3.2 and three seconds exposures.
It seems the difference in aperture (not even a doubling in light intensity) would not compensate for the increased light intensity of the ten times decrease in shutter speed. Is this correct?
source https://expertphotography.com/how-to-photograph-christmas-lights/
flash exposure lighting off-camera-flash
In this tutorial on creating christmas themed images the author describes how she adjusted her exposure settings to add more weight to the christmas lights
She says she went from f/2.8 and 1/3 of a second to f/3.2 and three seconds exposures.
It seems the difference in aperture (not even a doubling in light intensity) would not compensate for the increased light intensity of the ten times decrease in shutter speed. Is this correct?
source https://expertphotography.com/how-to-photograph-christmas-lights/
flash exposure lighting off-camera-flash
flash exposure lighting off-camera-flash
edited 7 hours ago
Hueco
11.3k32754
11.3k32754
asked 10 hours ago
LevonLevon
1375
1375
1
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
3
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago
add a comment |
1
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
3
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago
1
1
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
3
3
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
We don’t know exactly what 1/3 C means but we can surmise it a typo and should read 1/3 of a second.
Assuming this is true, how come the second shot, using a shutter speed of 3 seconds, is not overexposed? This might be a mistake, however, the text of the example you cited reveals the author used an electronic flash as the main light source.
In your mind, the difference between 1/3 of a second and 3 seconds is 10X. True, but this is photography- think of it as 3 stops --- additionally, an electronic flash outputs a flash of light that averages about 1/1000 of a second in duration. The key to understanding the difference in these two shots ---- the flash contributed equally to both images. It flashed and then extinguished. The difference in exposure is simply the accumulation of the ambient light, not the flash. We don’t know much about the ambient light except to say, it was likely feeble. Stopping down the lens reduced the exposure.
add a comment |
So, what you have here is a mixed lighting situation. The background and star notes are being lit via flash (check out their shadows. Nice and soft and from top to bottom. The main bulb cluster is on the left and yet it has no impact on those shadows) and the bulbs themselves are being lit...by themselves :-).
(There's probably a speedlight with a soft box on it or some other softening light modifier and it's placed north of the shooter, aiming down. When looking at lighting, always look to the shadows to get an idea of where it came from and how soft it was)
In these types of images, the flash is controlled by:
- its power level
- aperture
- ISO
The amount of light captured by the bulbs is controlled by:
- ISO
- aperture
- shutter speed
As you can see, there's overlap there but also two unique controls: the bulbs are the only thing affected by shutter speed while the flash is the only thing affected by changes to its power level.
So, in changing the exposure from f/2.8 to f/3.2 — the shooter brought down the amount of light processed from the flash (you can see that the highlights on the notes are less hot in the second example). They brought it down by 2/3 of a stop.
Now, that would also bring down the light captured from the bulbs by 2/3 of a stop. BUT, they also brought the shutter speed from 1/3 to 3s (~just over 3 stops), increasing the the total amount of light captured from the bulbs by ~2.5-3 stops.
So, in the end, the amount of flash captured was brought down while the amount of ambient (the bulbs) was brought up.
See technique 2 in my answer here. It's a similar mixed lighting shot and another idea for you to test mixing flash and bulbs. Mixed lighting is a whole subset of lighting technique, there is a lot to it, but damn if it isn't a lot of fun.
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Edit: reading the complete article in detail over lunch rather than the section in question and skimming the rest, the main source is a speedlight, which I missed while searching for more uses of 'flash' from the start of the article. - See Hueco's for the more detailed answer of what's going on with the dual exposure.
Possibly a typo in the article (Photography websites aren't exactly renowned for rigorous peer review or anything.) or they've glossed over some additional post work.
- Second photo does kind of look like it may have a gradient filter applied, and/or its levels played with. The main point of that section seems to be referring more to the concept of using a longer shutter time to capture more of that glow/scattering effect from the lights, moreso than a focus on nailing 'correct' exposure
(article section TL:DR boils down to "Seeing weak effects from the light? Change to a longer exposure time and adjust as needed.)
New contributor
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "61"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fphoto.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f105526%2fwhy-did-this-image-turn-out-darker%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
We don’t know exactly what 1/3 C means but we can surmise it a typo and should read 1/3 of a second.
Assuming this is true, how come the second shot, using a shutter speed of 3 seconds, is not overexposed? This might be a mistake, however, the text of the example you cited reveals the author used an electronic flash as the main light source.
In your mind, the difference between 1/3 of a second and 3 seconds is 10X. True, but this is photography- think of it as 3 stops --- additionally, an electronic flash outputs a flash of light that averages about 1/1000 of a second in duration. The key to understanding the difference in these two shots ---- the flash contributed equally to both images. It flashed and then extinguished. The difference in exposure is simply the accumulation of the ambient light, not the flash. We don’t know much about the ambient light except to say, it was likely feeble. Stopping down the lens reduced the exposure.
add a comment |
We don’t know exactly what 1/3 C means but we can surmise it a typo and should read 1/3 of a second.
Assuming this is true, how come the second shot, using a shutter speed of 3 seconds, is not overexposed? This might be a mistake, however, the text of the example you cited reveals the author used an electronic flash as the main light source.
In your mind, the difference between 1/3 of a second and 3 seconds is 10X. True, but this is photography- think of it as 3 stops --- additionally, an electronic flash outputs a flash of light that averages about 1/1000 of a second in duration. The key to understanding the difference in these two shots ---- the flash contributed equally to both images. It flashed and then extinguished. The difference in exposure is simply the accumulation of the ambient light, not the flash. We don’t know much about the ambient light except to say, it was likely feeble. Stopping down the lens reduced the exposure.
add a comment |
We don’t know exactly what 1/3 C means but we can surmise it a typo and should read 1/3 of a second.
Assuming this is true, how come the second shot, using a shutter speed of 3 seconds, is not overexposed? This might be a mistake, however, the text of the example you cited reveals the author used an electronic flash as the main light source.
In your mind, the difference between 1/3 of a second and 3 seconds is 10X. True, but this is photography- think of it as 3 stops --- additionally, an electronic flash outputs a flash of light that averages about 1/1000 of a second in duration. The key to understanding the difference in these two shots ---- the flash contributed equally to both images. It flashed and then extinguished. The difference in exposure is simply the accumulation of the ambient light, not the flash. We don’t know much about the ambient light except to say, it was likely feeble. Stopping down the lens reduced the exposure.
We don’t know exactly what 1/3 C means but we can surmise it a typo and should read 1/3 of a second.
Assuming this is true, how come the second shot, using a shutter speed of 3 seconds, is not overexposed? This might be a mistake, however, the text of the example you cited reveals the author used an electronic flash as the main light source.
In your mind, the difference between 1/3 of a second and 3 seconds is 10X. True, but this is photography- think of it as 3 stops --- additionally, an electronic flash outputs a flash of light that averages about 1/1000 of a second in duration. The key to understanding the difference in these two shots ---- the flash contributed equally to both images. It flashed and then extinguished. The difference in exposure is simply the accumulation of the ambient light, not the flash. We don’t know much about the ambient light except to say, it was likely feeble. Stopping down the lens reduced the exposure.
edited 6 hours ago
BobT
3,757922
3,757922
answered 7 hours ago
Alan MarcusAlan Marcus
25.6k23060
25.6k23060
add a comment |
add a comment |
So, what you have here is a mixed lighting situation. The background and star notes are being lit via flash (check out their shadows. Nice and soft and from top to bottom. The main bulb cluster is on the left and yet it has no impact on those shadows) and the bulbs themselves are being lit...by themselves :-).
(There's probably a speedlight with a soft box on it or some other softening light modifier and it's placed north of the shooter, aiming down. When looking at lighting, always look to the shadows to get an idea of where it came from and how soft it was)
In these types of images, the flash is controlled by:
- its power level
- aperture
- ISO
The amount of light captured by the bulbs is controlled by:
- ISO
- aperture
- shutter speed
As you can see, there's overlap there but also two unique controls: the bulbs are the only thing affected by shutter speed while the flash is the only thing affected by changes to its power level.
So, in changing the exposure from f/2.8 to f/3.2 — the shooter brought down the amount of light processed from the flash (you can see that the highlights on the notes are less hot in the second example). They brought it down by 2/3 of a stop.
Now, that would also bring down the light captured from the bulbs by 2/3 of a stop. BUT, they also brought the shutter speed from 1/3 to 3s (~just over 3 stops), increasing the the total amount of light captured from the bulbs by ~2.5-3 stops.
So, in the end, the amount of flash captured was brought down while the amount of ambient (the bulbs) was brought up.
See technique 2 in my answer here. It's a similar mixed lighting shot and another idea for you to test mixing flash and bulbs. Mixed lighting is a whole subset of lighting technique, there is a lot to it, but damn if it isn't a lot of fun.
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
add a comment |
So, what you have here is a mixed lighting situation. The background and star notes are being lit via flash (check out their shadows. Nice and soft and from top to bottom. The main bulb cluster is on the left and yet it has no impact on those shadows) and the bulbs themselves are being lit...by themselves :-).
(There's probably a speedlight with a soft box on it or some other softening light modifier and it's placed north of the shooter, aiming down. When looking at lighting, always look to the shadows to get an idea of where it came from and how soft it was)
In these types of images, the flash is controlled by:
- its power level
- aperture
- ISO
The amount of light captured by the bulbs is controlled by:
- ISO
- aperture
- shutter speed
As you can see, there's overlap there but also two unique controls: the bulbs are the only thing affected by shutter speed while the flash is the only thing affected by changes to its power level.
So, in changing the exposure from f/2.8 to f/3.2 — the shooter brought down the amount of light processed from the flash (you can see that the highlights on the notes are less hot in the second example). They brought it down by 2/3 of a stop.
Now, that would also bring down the light captured from the bulbs by 2/3 of a stop. BUT, they also brought the shutter speed from 1/3 to 3s (~just over 3 stops), increasing the the total amount of light captured from the bulbs by ~2.5-3 stops.
So, in the end, the amount of flash captured was brought down while the amount of ambient (the bulbs) was brought up.
See technique 2 in my answer here. It's a similar mixed lighting shot and another idea for you to test mixing flash and bulbs. Mixed lighting is a whole subset of lighting technique, there is a lot to it, but damn if it isn't a lot of fun.
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
add a comment |
So, what you have here is a mixed lighting situation. The background and star notes are being lit via flash (check out their shadows. Nice and soft and from top to bottom. The main bulb cluster is on the left and yet it has no impact on those shadows) and the bulbs themselves are being lit...by themselves :-).
(There's probably a speedlight with a soft box on it or some other softening light modifier and it's placed north of the shooter, aiming down. When looking at lighting, always look to the shadows to get an idea of where it came from and how soft it was)
In these types of images, the flash is controlled by:
- its power level
- aperture
- ISO
The amount of light captured by the bulbs is controlled by:
- ISO
- aperture
- shutter speed
As you can see, there's overlap there but also two unique controls: the bulbs are the only thing affected by shutter speed while the flash is the only thing affected by changes to its power level.
So, in changing the exposure from f/2.8 to f/3.2 — the shooter brought down the amount of light processed from the flash (you can see that the highlights on the notes are less hot in the second example). They brought it down by 2/3 of a stop.
Now, that would also bring down the light captured from the bulbs by 2/3 of a stop. BUT, they also brought the shutter speed from 1/3 to 3s (~just over 3 stops), increasing the the total amount of light captured from the bulbs by ~2.5-3 stops.
So, in the end, the amount of flash captured was brought down while the amount of ambient (the bulbs) was brought up.
See technique 2 in my answer here. It's a similar mixed lighting shot and another idea for you to test mixing flash and bulbs. Mixed lighting is a whole subset of lighting technique, there is a lot to it, but damn if it isn't a lot of fun.
So, what you have here is a mixed lighting situation. The background and star notes are being lit via flash (check out their shadows. Nice and soft and from top to bottom. The main bulb cluster is on the left and yet it has no impact on those shadows) and the bulbs themselves are being lit...by themselves :-).
(There's probably a speedlight with a soft box on it or some other softening light modifier and it's placed north of the shooter, aiming down. When looking at lighting, always look to the shadows to get an idea of where it came from and how soft it was)
In these types of images, the flash is controlled by:
- its power level
- aperture
- ISO
The amount of light captured by the bulbs is controlled by:
- ISO
- aperture
- shutter speed
As you can see, there's overlap there but also two unique controls: the bulbs are the only thing affected by shutter speed while the flash is the only thing affected by changes to its power level.
So, in changing the exposure from f/2.8 to f/3.2 — the shooter brought down the amount of light processed from the flash (you can see that the highlights on the notes are less hot in the second example). They brought it down by 2/3 of a stop.
Now, that would also bring down the light captured from the bulbs by 2/3 of a stop. BUT, they also brought the shutter speed from 1/3 to 3s (~just over 3 stops), increasing the the total amount of light captured from the bulbs by ~2.5-3 stops.
So, in the end, the amount of flash captured was brought down while the amount of ambient (the bulbs) was brought up.
See technique 2 in my answer here. It's a similar mixed lighting shot and another idea for you to test mixing flash and bulbs. Mixed lighting is a whole subset of lighting technique, there is a lot to it, but damn if it isn't a lot of fun.
edited 8 hours ago
mattdm
121k40356648
121k40356648
answered 9 hours ago
HuecoHueco
11.3k32754
11.3k32754
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
add a comment |
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
An excellent method, and an example of why not being scared to learn to use a flash is such a useful tool in photography. I would also find it highly ironic if the article writers took this root, given that they opened the piece with basically "don't bother with flash..." - Feels like a good reminder to take photo articles with a grain of salt I guess?
– TheLuckless
8 hours ago
2
2
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
@TheLuckless Definite yes on the NaCl. Though, I did check out the article and it does mention using a speedlight as a main. That being said, it does far too little to actually describe the method, especially to a technical enough degree for a beginner to replicate. So, yea, this is a bit too photo-click-baity for my tastes. Good thing SE exists :-)
– Hueco
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Edit: reading the complete article in detail over lunch rather than the section in question and skimming the rest, the main source is a speedlight, which I missed while searching for more uses of 'flash' from the start of the article. - See Hueco's for the more detailed answer of what's going on with the dual exposure.
Possibly a typo in the article (Photography websites aren't exactly renowned for rigorous peer review or anything.) or they've glossed over some additional post work.
- Second photo does kind of look like it may have a gradient filter applied, and/or its levels played with. The main point of that section seems to be referring more to the concept of using a longer shutter time to capture more of that glow/scattering effect from the lights, moreso than a focus on nailing 'correct' exposure
(article section TL:DR boils down to "Seeing weak effects from the light? Change to a longer exposure time and adjust as needed.)
New contributor
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Edit: reading the complete article in detail over lunch rather than the section in question and skimming the rest, the main source is a speedlight, which I missed while searching for more uses of 'flash' from the start of the article. - See Hueco's for the more detailed answer of what's going on with the dual exposure.
Possibly a typo in the article (Photography websites aren't exactly renowned for rigorous peer review or anything.) or they've glossed over some additional post work.
- Second photo does kind of look like it may have a gradient filter applied, and/or its levels played with. The main point of that section seems to be referring more to the concept of using a longer shutter time to capture more of that glow/scattering effect from the lights, moreso than a focus on nailing 'correct' exposure
(article section TL:DR boils down to "Seeing weak effects from the light? Change to a longer exposure time and adjust as needed.)
New contributor
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Edit: reading the complete article in detail over lunch rather than the section in question and skimming the rest, the main source is a speedlight, which I missed while searching for more uses of 'flash' from the start of the article. - See Hueco's for the more detailed answer of what's going on with the dual exposure.
Possibly a typo in the article (Photography websites aren't exactly renowned for rigorous peer review or anything.) or they've glossed over some additional post work.
- Second photo does kind of look like it may have a gradient filter applied, and/or its levels played with. The main point of that section seems to be referring more to the concept of using a longer shutter time to capture more of that glow/scattering effect from the lights, moreso than a focus on nailing 'correct' exposure
(article section TL:DR boils down to "Seeing weak effects from the light? Change to a longer exposure time and adjust as needed.)
New contributor
Edit: reading the complete article in detail over lunch rather than the section in question and skimming the rest, the main source is a speedlight, which I missed while searching for more uses of 'flash' from the start of the article. - See Hueco's for the more detailed answer of what's going on with the dual exposure.
Possibly a typo in the article (Photography websites aren't exactly renowned for rigorous peer review or anything.) or they've glossed over some additional post work.
- Second photo does kind of look like it may have a gradient filter applied, and/or its levels played with. The main point of that section seems to be referring more to the concept of using a longer shutter time to capture more of that glow/scattering effect from the lights, moreso than a focus on nailing 'correct' exposure
(article section TL:DR boils down to "Seeing weak effects from the light? Change to a longer exposure time and adjust as needed.)
New contributor
edited 5 hours ago
New contributor
answered 9 hours ago
TheLucklessTheLuckless
44414
44414
New contributor
New contributor
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
Do you capture more glow because it is assumed you lower the aperture size?
– Levon
9 hours ago
2
2
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
Partly. The 'glow' that surrounds a light source is from different forms of light scattering - Increasing capture time grabs more of it from more places. Similar thing with light painting in a way - You're not recording 'a' glow, you're recording the glow over time as light gets scattered to your lens from different points. (You could also add fog to give more 'stuff' for the light to scatter off of, but that gets tricky to control.) Think of the difference in photographing a swarm of fireflies at 1/1000th of a second vs 10 seconds. Odds are more will be 'on' during some part of the 10s.
– TheLuckless
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Photography Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fphoto.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f105526%2fwhy-did-this-image-turn-out-darker%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
myself, i'm wondering what 1/3 c is supposed to mean. you translate it as 1/3 of a second, but is that a given?
– ths
9 hours ago
If you search this site for 'Mixed Lighting' you'll get a ton of info as well. Also, this blog is almost legendary when it comes to learning: strobist.blogspot.com
– Hueco
8 hours ago
3
@ths if not a typo...obscure reference to c as the constant speed of light maybe?
– Hueco
7 hours ago