Using theabspage from the 'perpage' package
2
After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{perpage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabic{abspage}.
end{document}
I obtain this:
However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?
In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounter{page} in the preamble, same result.
My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.
page-numbering perpage
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After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{perpage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabic{abspage}.
end{document}
I obtain this:
However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?
In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounter{page} in the preamble, same result.
My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.
page-numbering perpage
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
850711
1
Presumablyabspagehas the same issue as the normalpagecounter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn
– moewe
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with thepagecounter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading theperpagemanual, I expected that after two passes,theabspagewould be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from theperpagemanual (it mentionspage, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose oftheabspage, after all. That was the question. :)
– frougon
2 days ago
1
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
1
If I understand the documentation ofperpagecorrectly thenabspageis defined asAddAbsoluteCounter{page}. AndAddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>}just defines a counterabs<counter>that is stepped up each time<counter>is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to<counter>it holds the absolute/total counter value. Forpagethat seems to imply thatabspagehas the exact same issues aspagew.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page.theabspageandpagecould differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1
– moewe
2 days ago
1
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter likeabspagecan be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of theperpagepackage, which resets all kinds of things per page.
– moewe
2 days ago
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After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{perpage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabic{abspage}.
end{document}
I obtain this:
However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?
In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounter{page} in the preamble, same result.
My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.
page-numbering perpage
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
850711
After two compilations of the following example with pdflatex:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{perpage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, theabspage, arabic{abspage}.
end{document}
I obtain this:
However, I would have expected to see the number 2 printed twice at the top of page 2, after the second compilation run. Am I having wrong expectations, or somehow misusing theabspage?
In a kind of desperate attempt, I've also tried to put AddAbsoluteCounter{page} in the preamble, same result.
My TeX distribution is TeX Live as shipped in current Debian unstable (texlive-base version 2018.20190227-2) and the log file written by pdfTeX says perpage 2014/10/25 2.0.
page-numbering perpage
page-numbering perpage
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
850711
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
850711
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
850711
asked 2 days ago
frougonfrougon
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frougonfrougon
850711
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Presumablyabspagehas the same issue as the normalpagecounter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn
– moewe
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with thepagecounter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading theperpagemanual, I expected that after two passes,theabspagewould be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from theperpagemanual (it mentionspage, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose oftheabspage, after all. That was the question. :)
– frougon
2 days ago
1
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
1
If I understand the documentation ofperpagecorrectly thenabspageis defined asAddAbsoluteCounter{page}. AndAddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>}just defines a counterabs<counter>that is stepped up each time<counter>is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to<counter>it holds the absolute/total counter value. Forpagethat seems to imply thatabspagehas the exact same issues aspagew.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page.theabspageandpagecould differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1
– moewe
2 days ago
1
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter likeabspagecan be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of theperpagepackage, which resets all kinds of things per page.
– moewe
2 days ago
|
show 5 more comments
1
Presumablyabspagehas the same issue as the normalpagecounter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn
– moewe
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with thepagecounter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading theperpagemanual, I expected that after two passes,theabspagewould be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from theperpagemanual (it mentionspage, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose oftheabspage, after all. That was the question. :)
– frougon
2 days ago
1
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
1
If I understand the documentation ofperpagecorrectly thenabspageis defined asAddAbsoluteCounter{page}. AndAddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>}just defines a counterabs<counter>that is stepped up each time<counter>is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to<counter>it holds the absolute/total counter value. Forpagethat seems to imply thatabspagehas the exact same issues aspagew.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page.theabspageandpagecould differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1
– moewe
2 days ago
1
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter likeabspagecan be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of theperpagepackage, which resets all kinds of things per page.
– moewe
2 days ago
1
1
Presumably
abspage has the same issue as the normal page counter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn– moewe
2 days ago
Presumably
abspage has the same issue as the normal page counter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn– moewe
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with the
page counter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading the perpage manual, I expected that after two passes, theabspage would be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from the perpage manual (it mentions page, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose of theabspage, after all. That was the question. :)– frougon
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with the
page counter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading the perpage manual, I expected that after two passes, theabspage would be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from the perpage manual (it mentions page, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose of theabspage, after all. That was the question. :)– frougon
2 days ago
1
1
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
1
1
If I understand the documentation of
perpage correctly then abspage is defined as AddAbsoluteCounter{page}. And AddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>} just defines a counter abs<counter> that is stepped up each time <counter> is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to <counter> it holds the absolute/total counter value. For page that seems to imply that abspage has the exact same issues as page w.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page. theabspage and page could differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1– moewe
2 days ago
If I understand the documentation of
perpage correctly then abspage is defined as AddAbsoluteCounter{page}. And AddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>} just defines a counter abs<counter> that is stepped up each time <counter> is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to <counter> it holds the absolute/total counter value. For page that seems to imply that abspage has the exact same issues as page w.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page. theabspage and page could differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1– moewe
2 days ago
1
1
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter like
abspage can be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of the perpage package, which resets all kinds of things per page.– moewe
2 days ago
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter like
abspage can be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of the perpage package, which resets all kinds of things per page.– moewe
2 days ago
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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{zref-user,zref-abspage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabel{A}zref[abspage]{A}, zlabel{B}zref[abspage]{B}, zlabel{C}zref[abspage]{C}, zlabel{D}zref[abspage]{D}, zlabel{E}zref[abspage]{E}.
end{document}
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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{zref-user,zref-abspage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabel{A}zref[abspage]{A}, zlabel{B}zref[abspage]{B}, zlabel{C}zref[abspage]{C}, zlabel{D}zref[abspage]{D}, zlabel{E}zref[abspage]{E}.
end{document}
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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{zref-user,zref-abspage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabel{A}zref[abspage]{A}, zlabel{B}zref[abspage]{B}, zlabel{C}zref[abspage]{C}, zlabel{D}zref[abspage]{D}, zlabel{E}zref[abspage]{E}.
end{document}
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You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{zref-user,zref-abspage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabel{A}zref[abspage]{A}, zlabel{B}zref[abspage]{B}, zlabel{C}zref[abspage]{C}, zlabel{D}zref[abspage]{D}, zlabel{E}zref[abspage]{E}.
end{document}
answered 2 days ago
Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer
198k9306692
You can get the absolute page number e.g. with the zref package:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{lipsum}
usepackage{zref-user,zref-abspage}
begin{document}
lipsum[1-5]
lipsum[6][2]
Page~zlabel{A}zref[abspage]{A}, zlabel{B}zref[abspage]{B}, zlabel{C}zref[abspage]{C}, zlabel{D}zref[abspage]{D}, zlabel{E}zref[abspage]{E}.
end{document}
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Presumably
abspagehas the same issue as the normalpagecounter: texfaq.org/FAQ-wrongpn– moewe
2 days ago
@moewe Thanks for your comment! I believe I know what happens with the
pagecounter, how paragraphs and pages are broken, etc. (read the TeXbook 'till chapter 27). From reading theperpagemanual, I expected that after two passes,theabspagewould be up-to-date, but I'm not sure I really understand its textual definition from theperpagemanual (it mentionspage, what's that? A typo, I guess). So, maybe I just don't understand the purpose oftheabspage, after all. That was the question. :)– frougon
2 days ago
1
no you can't use theabspage like this, and the perpage package is for other counters, e.g. to get footnote references by pages.
– Ulrike Fischer
2 days ago
1
If I understand the documentation of
perpagecorrectly thenabspageis defined asAddAbsoluteCounter{page}. AndAddAbsoluteCounter{<counter>}just defines a counterabs<counter>that is stepped up each time<counter>is stepped up. Since it is not reset by resets to<counter>it holds the absolute/total counter value. Forpagethat seems to imply thatabspagehas the exact same issues aspagew.r.t. its value in the first paragraph on a new page.theabspageandpagecould differ if you started your document with Roman page numbers and only later switched to Arabic 1– moewe
2 days ago
1
If you want to call this negative page numbers, then yes. It is not that unusual for people to want to reset their page numbers at certain points, so a robust and truly unique counter like
abspagecan be useful. This is especially useful for other objects where it is much more common to reset counters (like footnote counters per chapter or the like) particularly in the context of theperpagepackage, which resets all kinds of things per page.– moewe
2 days ago